This week Des
Clark has been in Canberra for the Senate Estimates Committee hearings.
Brian Harradine was present to give him his usual grilling, this time on
the rating awarded to 9 SONGS. The session ended with the Democrats
Brian Greig asking why unclassified hardcore films were widely available
in NSW and Victoria.
attorney-general's portfolio:
Office of Film and Literature Classification
Date: 14 February, 2005
Department: attorney-general's portfolio
Database: Estimates Comm.
Committee name: LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION COMMITTEE
Program: Office of Film and Literature Classification
Proof: Yes
Office of Film and
Literature Classification
Mr Des Clark, Director
Mr Paul Hunt, Deputy Director
Mr John Robinson, Business Manager
CHAIR —Welcome
Mr Clark, Mr Hunt and Mr Robinson. I understand we will start with
questions from Senator Harradine.
Senator HARRADINE —I am wondering about
the answers that have been given to me over a period of time in respect
of the contents of X material. In the Daily
Telegraph of 18 January this year the Classification Review Board
rated a film featuring real sex scenes as R rather than X. This
overturned the decision of the OFLC. Given
statements made by the OFLC to the
committee over the years, what grounds were used to rate that film X
when clearly it came within the guidelines of R?
Mr Clark —In answer to your question,
the board, in making an X decision, was of the view that the amount of
actual sex in the film did not permit it into the R classification but
that, because there was no violence or other content that would cause it
not to fit into the X classification, the board placed in that
classification category. The review board made a different decision in
interpreting the same guidelines, but I am unable to tell you precisely
their thinking in relation to that. As you know, the Classification
Review Board makes a new decision and it is entirely their decision to
make.
Senator HARRADINE —I thought you may be
able to provide the information to the committee as to why the review
board made such a decision in contradistinction to yours.
Mr Clark —I am unable to comment on
review board decisions. As I understand it, the reasons for the decision
by the review board are not yet complete but when they are complete they
can be made available to you.
Senator HARRADINE —However, your
guidelines are fixed, are they not? They have not changed.
Mr Clark —No, the guidelines have not
changed and the review board use the same guidelines.
Senator HARRADINE —In a previous
estimates committee I questioned the OFLC on
earlier film classification decisions and was assured that, for R rated
films:
Sexual activity may be realistically
simulated; the general rule is “simulation, yes—the real thing,
no.”
When making classification decisions about
nudity in a sexual context, which includes genital to genital contact,
the Classification Board applies and has always applied the general
rule.
That was a statement made by your
officers. You are now telling me that you cannot comment on the review
board's decision.
Mr Clark —As chairman of the
classification board it would be entirely inappropriate for me to
comment on a decision made by the Classification Review Board, which is
an independent statutory board. I can comment on the application of the
guidelines by the classification board, of which I am a member, and my
answer to you at that time still stands true in relation to the
guidelines for sexual activity at the R classification and the
application of a general rule.
Senator HARRADINE —So, in fact, it is
just a technical question as to whether there is real sex involved or
not.
Mr Clark —It is not a technical
question. The board, in a number of decisions over 10 years, has applied
the general rule and permitted small amounts of actual sex depending on
the context and the merit of the film, but the general rule is applied.
Senator HARRADINE —You say `the context'
of the film.
Mr Clark —Yes.
Senator HARRADINE —So you take that into
consideration. Do you take the pornographic intent into consideration? I
can envisage films that may have no pornographic content or intent at
all but which would have nudity, for example. According to what you have
just said, you have indicated that you do have regard to the nature of
the content.
Mr Clark —The context of the story of
the film and the way that is told is different to the intent. If the
intent is purely pornographic I am sure that the board will apply the
guidelines very rigidly. But if the film has merit—and it is a
judgment that the board makes under section 11 of the act—it may be
permissible in applying the general rule. But, in applying the general
rule, the board would certainly not be permitting films which have a
sexually explicit intent which would sit most appropriately in the X
classification.
Senator HARRADINE —What is a sexually
explicit intent?
Mr Clark —That is the purpose of the
film. That is all it is about and that is what X rated films are.
Senator HARRADINE —I just cannot cope
with those words together—sexually explicit intent. You are talking
about pornographic intent, presumably, are you?
Mr Clark —The guidelines do not actually
use the word `pornographic' and nor does the code. Sexually explicit
intent, if you like, of making a film like that would place it into X.
It would not fit into the R classification. An R classification has
permitted, under the general rule, from time to time a small amount of
actual sexual activity, but it is in the context of a film which is
mostly not about that; it is about narrating a story.
Senator HARRADINE —So you could have a
pornographic theme in part of the film which relates to the explicit
area and that would normally be classified as X?
Mr Clark —Under the guidelines, films
that are classified X contain sexually explicit material, and that is
mostly what they contain.
Senator HARRADINE —Why don't you assess
the films on their pornographic intent and content or otherwise?
Mr Clark —We assess X-rated films on
their explicit sexual content. The word `pornographic' is not in any of
the guidelines.
Senator HARRADINE —That is what you did
on this particular occasion. You classified this particular film, 9
Songs, as X.
Mr Clark —We did because of the amount
of sexual activity in the film. The board recognised that it had a more
serious intent than other X-rated films because it had musical
performances, but the board's view was that the film sat within the X
classification.
Senator HARRADINE —Again, you are
talking about the question of explicit intent. Does that mean
pornographic intent?
Mr Clark —I do not believe that the film
had pornographic intent, because we do not seek to measure that. We
believe that the amount of actual sex in 9
Songs exceeded the guideline for R, but it does not necessarily
have to be RC because it could be accommodated at the X classification.
Senator HARRADINE —Would you agree that
the definition of porn is material, the content and intent of which is
designed to arouse the sexual desires of its target audience?
Mr Clark —No I do not. Pornographic can
mean many things. It depends on how the word is applied, if I go to the
dictionary for its meaning. I think that is the reason why the
`pornographic' does not appear in the code or in the guidelines.
Senator HARRADINE —So you would deny
that that definition was appropriate?
Mr Clark —It is one of many. It does
accommodate that, but there are many interpretations of the meaning of
`pornographic'.
Senator HARRADINE —Like what? Could you
explain?
Mr Clark —I am trying to think of a good
example. I think sometimes matters of crime could be applied as being
pornographic as well in their intent. I would really need to get the
dictionary, but that is my last reading of the meaning of the word.
Senator HARRADINE —Can the public expect
that material which contains small amounts of pornographic and explicit
sex will be classified as X—is that right?
Mr Clark —No. It is a possibility, but
that is not the case because many of these films that have been given an
R classification which do contain some explicit sex also contain
violence or other activities which would prohibit them from being in the
X classification.
Senator HARRADINE —I understand that.
That is a given. We have been through this time and time again.
Mr Clark —Yes we have, Senator.
Senator HARRADINE —I do not have to be
told that.
Mr Clark —But that still applies.
Senator HARRADINE —Yes, but I am talking
about how explicit material—and I specifically use your words and
added my word to make it explicit and pornographic material—would
thereby be classified by your board as X.
Mr Clark —Provided it meets the
guidelines for X, yes, it could be.
Senator HARRADINE —I am trying to get to
what the new guidelines are for X.
Mr Clark —The note to the guidelines for
X says:
This classification category applies only
to films. This classification is a special and legally restricted
category which contains only sexually explicit material. That is
material which contains real depictions of actual sexual intercourse and
other sexual activity between consenting adults.
Senator HARRADINE —Thank you.
Senator GREIG —What is the OFLC
doing with the widespread, illegal sale of unclassified adult films,
particularly in New South Wales and Victoria? I am advised that an OFLC
community liaison officer, Mr Ron Robertson, has confirmed that X-rated
films are being sold through service stations, convenience stores,
delicatessens and newsagents. A press release in December of last year
from Victorian opposition small business spokesperson, Mr Bruce Atkinson
MLC, said, `Until march of this year'—that is, last year:
2004—`unclassified adult films were sold in a Coles Express outlet in
Fitzroy where I bought my petrol'. Does the OFLC
believe it is supplying both the New South Wales and the Victorian state
governments with enough information about the extensive black market
operations that exist there in order for those state jurisdictions to
make effective laws to control it?
Mr Clark —The community liaison officers
liaise with nominated officers in each state and territory. They report
on their activities and they plan their activities in conjunction with
the appropriate officials in each state and territory. So there is a
close working relationship there. They do report to them three times a
year in relation to their activities. So that is provided on an ongoing
and regular basis.
Senator GREIG —Are you satisfied,
though, that that system is working? As I understand it, state
governments are not enforcing the federal classification act, even
though they have complementary enforcement legislation. It is estimated
that some seven million adult films are sold illegally in Australia each
year, yet I am advised also that the OFLC
in its annual report classified only 640 X-rated films. Can you attempt
to convince me that the system is effective? It seems to me that there
is a disconnect here with the state application of federal law. The
result is that we are seeing a significant illegal market of
unclassified materials through family outlets.
Mr Clark —What you say has a lot of
validity. We classify the material that is submitted and we report.
Ultimately, it is a decision for the states and territories how they
will enforce the law. We provide that information and we hope for
improvement in enforcement activity.
Senator GREIG —Hope for improvement? Is
that—
Mr Clark —We are working to get better
coordination with the state authorities. That is an activity that is
currently under way so the designation nominee will have a better
ability to move through those jurisdictions.
Senator GREIG —Does the Commonwealth
have any coercive powers in that regard?
Mr Clark —The Commonwealth is primarily
a statutory decision maker. The CLS is a joint funded operation of the OFLC
and the states and territories. But ultimately enforcement is a matter
for the states and territories.
Senator GREIG —Thank you.
CHAIR —As there are no further
questions, I would like to thank you Mr Clark, Mr Hunt and Mr Robinson.
[3.50 p.m.]
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The forthcoming documentary INSIDE
DEEP THROAT could be the next title to feature real sex in the R18+
rating. The film contains footage from the original DEEP THROAT. This currently holds an X18+ rating in Australia.
Porn
doco breathes life into sex debate. SMH 17.02.05
Dendy Films' general manager, Richard
Payten, said controversy over the classification in Australia was
"highly probable but we hope that [the film] contributes in a
positive way to the censorship debate". The company plans to
release the documentary - and Deep Throat, if a print is
available - in June or July.
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The
Eros Journal Vol.5 No.4 has just been released. Frank Hodges contributes
an excellent article on how the Christian Right are beginning a national
campaign to restrict Adult Stores. It also covers the push to have X18+
legalised in Victoria. Subscription details can be found here.
Eros have just launched a new website titled Deception.
The latest edition explains the aims of the site.
With Christian groups increasingly responsible for stopping development applications
from adult shop, brothel and other
adult goods and services operators, the Eros Association has launched a
new web site to
help traders defend the morality and legitimacy of their operations.
www.deception.com.au lists all church clergy in Australia who have been
dealt with in the courts for child sexual assaults and abuse since 1990.
It then goes on to outline the mischievous campaign of deception that
religious groups in Australia are perpetrating on
the
adult industry through local councils, state governments
and even federal government. Basically, these groups accuse the
sex industry of causing sex
crimes wherever they set up and cause government
to further restrict or even ban the industry when ,in fact, it is the
churches who breed the perpetrators of the sex crimes. The site lays bear
the names and circumstances of hundreds of church clergy but fails to find
even one adult industry operator who has ever been charged with a child
sex assault.
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Two more adult titles to add to the database. Despite being
awarded an X18+ in 1999, ERUPTION
has just been re-rated RC.
Gallery Entertainment had the Leisure Time DVD #24951
Refused Classification in January.
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The following statement was made by Jack
Snelling (ALP) in the South Australian House of Assembly on February
17th. The former Deputy Head of the Classification Board he refers to is
David Haines. Mr Snelling claims:
"It
is remarkable that, upon retirement, someone who has held a position as
an independent umpire takes up a position as such a lobbyist.
There is nothing
at all remarkable about this. How many government ministers have left
their positions to take up such roles?
Mr SNELLING
(Playford): Late last
year, along with the member for Florey and the federal member for Makin,
Trish Draper, I attended the Christmas break-up of the Valley View
Neighbourhood Watch. None of us had been invited to speak and, given the
nature of the event, I thought that fair enough. However, that did not
stop Ms Draper, who promptly invited herself to speak on the then
imminent release of the French art-house film, Anatomy of Hell,
of which she was rather critical. I am not of the opinion that adults
should be able to watch whatever they want, and I think that the
government has a role in censoring films that offend public decency.
However, what flowed from Ms Draper was an extraordinary attack on the
state government and the Attorney-General, in particular, for not using
his powers to ban the film in South Australia.
I
think that there are good reasons for the state's not striking out and
taking a `going it alone' approach to censorship,
the main reason being that, because of DVDs and videos, these films can
be moved across state borders very easily. One has only to look at the
number of X-rated or non-violent erotica films that constantly come
across into our state from Canberra. What I find remarkable is that,
while criticising the state government, Ms Draper, who is a member of
the federal government (which has the prime responsibility for
classification and censorship), seems to
have done nothing to approach the federal government on these issues. I
wonder what she has done to lobby the federal Attorney-General about the
personnel who comprise the federal Classification Board probably not
much.
Recently,
I was amazed to learn that a former deputy head of the Classification
Board has taken up a position as a lobbyist for the Eros Foundation,
which is one of the main promoters of pornography. It is remarkable
that, upon retirement, someone who has held a position as an independent
umpire takes up a position as such a lobbyist. However, my main
grievance is Ms Draper's getting up at community functions, at which she
was not invited to speak, and making political attacks on the state
government on matters for which the federal government has prime
responsibility.
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The full
Review Board report has now been released for SIDEWAYS.
The distributor's request to have the rating lowered from MA15+ to M was
successful.
15
November 2004
23-33 MARY STREET
SURRY HILLS, NSW
MEMBERS:
Ms Maureen Shelley (Convenor)
The
Hon Trevor Griffin (Deputy Convenor)
Dr Robin Harvey
APPLICANT:
20th
Century Fox
Film Distributors Pty Ltd (20th
Century Fox)
Represented
by: Mr John Dickie, John Dickie Consultants and
BUSINESS:
To review
the Classification Board’s decision to classify the
film
Sideways (the
film) MA15+ with the consumer advice
‘Medium
level sex scenes, sexual references, medium level
coarse
language’.
DECISION
AND REASONS FOR DECISION
1.
Decision
The
Classification Review Board (the Review Board) in the majority classified
the
film
M with the consumer advice ‘Frequent coarse language, sex scenes, sexual
references,
alcohol and depression themes’.
2.
Legislative provisions
The
Classification
(Publications, Film and Computer Games) Act 1995
(the Act)
of
the Act provides that films are to be classified in accordance with the
National
Three
essential principles underlie the use of the 2003
Guidelines for the
of
the Act:
The
importance of context
Assessing
impact
Six
classifiable elements – themes, violence, sex, language, drug use and
nudity.
3.
Procedure
Having
earlier received a valid written application for review, three members of
the
Sideways
at the
Board’s meeting on 15 November
2004.
The
Review Board then received an oral submission from Mr John Dickie
Mr
Chris Smith also attended on behalf of the Applicant during Mr Dickie’s
oral
submission.
The
Board then met in camera to consider the matter.
4.
Evidence and other material taken into account
In
reaching its decision the Review Board had regard to the following:
(i)
20th
Century Fox’s
application for review;
(ii)
20th
Century Fox’s
written and oral submissions;
(iii)
The film;
(iv)
The relevant provisions in the Act;
(v)
The relevant
provisions in the Code, as amended in accordance with s.6 of
the
Act
(vi)
The Classification Board’s report; and
(vii)
The Guidelines
for the Classification of Films and Computer Games 2003.
5
Synopsis
Husband-to-be
Jack and his best man Miles set out on a road trip encompassing a
wine-tasting
tour to celebrate Jack’s last days as a single man. The pair is
determined
to
enjoy each other’s company and the local wines however Jack has
additional
ambitions
to participate in sexual activity leading to a number of comic and
dramatic
6
Findings on material questions of fact
The
Review Board found that the film contains aspects or scenes important to
(a)
Themes –
The theme of irresponsible alcohol consumption combined with
depressive
illness had a moderate impact in the film given the context of the two men
At
92 minutes his compulsive consumption of alcohol combined with his
depression
(b)
Sex –
There are two sex scenes in the film, one discreetly implied and one
implied.
At 67 minutes a discreetly implied sex scene is shown. The scene is brief
with
little detail. The bare buttocks of Jack are shown briefly.
At
107 minutes is a 60 second implied sex scene. The scene’s comedic
treatment
mitigates
the impact of the scene. Miles has broken into a house to recover Jack’s
wallet
that he left after having sex (not shown) with a waitress. The buxom
waitress
and
her husband are having implied sex. The waitress says “I’ve been a bad
girl, I
pulled
him and I fucked him”. The focus of the scene is on Miles and whether he
will
get
caught. The sexual activity is taking place in the background. The film
invites the
audience
to laugh both at the couple – who are both overweight people – and
Miles
through
lighting, the accompanying dialogue and the anguished look on Miles’
face.
The
light tone and lack of detail mitigate the impact of the scene.
There
are also several verbal sexual references in the film.
(c)
Language –
The film contains frequent coarse language mainly used
conversationally
in a mild tone of voice, as in “Teaching English to fucking eighth
graders”
or “What the fuck were you doing?”. Aggressive coarse language is used
infrequently.
(d)
Violence –
There is one scene of violence at approximately 94 minutes when
Stephanie
(with whom Jack has been having a sexual relationship) implicitly hits
Jack
in
the face with a bike helmet. Her arm with the helmet in her hand is shown
heading
towards
Jack. He is then off camera and she is shown hitting him on the ground.
Later
(e)
Nudity –
There is one scene of full nudity in the film and two of partial nudity.
When
Jack is discovered by the husband he returns to the motel naked whilst
covering
his
penis completely with his hands. The sex scene of the waitress and her
husband
shows
them fully naked but genitalia cannot be seen. As Miles escapes with
Jack’s
wallet
he is pursued by the waitress’s husband. The husband is shown running
nude
after
him. Again the comedic treatment of the scene mitigates its impact. The
husband
is
a comic figure and the scene of him running naked makes him appear only
more
comic.
Again the focus in this scene is on Miles making his escape. The overall
tone
and
treatment ensures that the impact of the scene is moderate, there is
little menace
(f)
Drug use –
At 81 minutes a character is depicted implicitly smoking a joint. The
excessive
consumption of alcohol by Miles is a theme throughout the film. However,
his
behaviour is not condoned or glamorised. He is shown to bear the
consequences of
his
actions and he does not experience “success” with the woman he is
interested in
until
his drinking is under control.
7
Reasons for the decision
The
Review Board based its decision to classify the film Sideways
‘M’
with the
consumer
advice ‘Frequent coarse language, sex scenes, sexual references, alcohol
and
depression themes’ on the content of the film as set out in 5 and 6
above.
The
film contains a number of classifiable elements but their impact is no
more than
moderate.
The Review Board found that the treatment of the moderate themes was
The
Review Board in the majority concluded that whilst the impact of the
classifiable
elements
was only moderate the subject matter was such that would not be
By
providing extensive and detailed consumer advice the Review Board was
signalling
to parents that while the film had only a moderate classification it was
not a
film
recommended for minors. Generally, if a film warrants extensive consumer
advice,
the Review Board would consider that a higher classification may be
appropriate.
However, the Review Board found in the majority that a more restrictive
classification
was not warranted given the moderate impact – both individually and
cumulatively
– of the classifiable elements.
It
was the view of the minority that the cumulative impact of the
classifiable elements
was
such that the film warranted the more restrictive classification of
‘MA15+’.
This
is a slow paced film that is likely to only appeal to adults, most likely
to the
ageing
baby boomers similar to those that it depicts. It does contain several
classifiable
elements of moderate impact, however, the Review Board concluded in
8
Summary
While
the classifiable elements and the impact in the overall context of the
film
Sideways
did not
justify a ‘MA15+’ classification, they did result in the film being
not
recommended
for persons under 15 years of age and warranted specific consumer
advice
relating to the frequent use of coarse language, sex scenes, sexual
references,
and
the themes of excessive alcohol consumption and depression.
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and Video Classics.