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Australian Censorship News: June 2007 - Part 1UPDATES: 24th June 2007 UPDATES: 16th June 2007 UPDATES: 10th June 2007 UPDATES: 3rd June 2007 UPDATES
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| DOUBLE JEOPARDY | |
| FACE FUCKING INC. | |
| SUMMER SEX JOB IN GUADALOUPE 2 | |
| TITTY BABES |
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As usual with titles in THE PICTURE PREMIUM range of magazines, the publisher, ACP Extra have again overstepped the intended ratings. Issue #46 of the 100% HOME GIRLS magazine saw the proof print of the Unrestricted issue hit with a Category 1, Modifications have now been made and it now has the intended Unrestricted (M not recommended for readers under 15 years) rating.
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The latest issue of PENTHOUSE has ran into problems with the Classification Board. It looks like the magazine takes advantage of the Serial Classification that the OFLC offers. Like THE PICTURE PREMIUM two versions of the magazine are produced. One is Unrestricted (M not recommended for readers under 15 years), and the other Category 1.
The Serial Classification option could now be in doubt after the Classification Board found that the Unrestricted (M not recommended for readers under 15 years) version "emphasised genitals".
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Pushed by their Women's Committee, the Liberal Party Federal Council has backed a motion calling for music videos to be rated.
Call for music videos to be classified. ABC AM Program 02.06.07
TIMOTHY MCDONALD: The Attorney-General Philip Ruddock told the council he'd look into the matter.
PHILIP RUDDOCK: I would like to have the particular programs that you have identified and particularly if you have a tape of them or can identify the particular clips so that I can invite the appropriate officers to undertake a review and to see whether or not those matters ought to be requested for further examination.
TIMOTHY MCDONALD: Network Ten has a long running and popular video show on Saturday and Sundays mornings. It's rated G before 10 o'clock and PG afterwards.
A spokeswoman says all music videos on Channel Ten are reviewed by professional classifiers, who make sure they're in line with the commercial television code of practice. She says the network receives very few complaints about the program.
That comes as no surprise to the President of the New South Wales Council for Civil Liberties, Cameron Murphy. He says there's no problem with the current classification system.
CAMERON MURPHY: If parents are concerned about material that's on television, it's their job in the first place to ensure that they're determining what their children watch, what's appropriate for them, and they have all the tools to do so. The current system allows them to do that.
TIMOTHY MCDONALD: Mr Murphy says he's worried about the Government's approach to censorship laws. He says people don't need the Government telling them what they can and can't watch.
CAMERON MURPHY: The Classification Review Board, which used to be independent, has been moved into the Attorney-General's department. There's a review at the moment of the Classification Act. Music videos are fine.
ELIZABETH JACKSON: The President of the New South Wales Council for Civil Liberties Cameron Murphy ending that report from Tim McDonald.
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On Tuesday the ABC Radio National show Australia Talks covered the subject of smoking in film. Now that the MPAA in the US are looking at giving higher ratings to such films, will Australia follow? One of the guests on the show is the new Director of the OFLC Donald McDonald. You can download a copy of the show here.
Australia Talks
5th June 2007
Smoking in the Movies
Smoking in the movies - is it time to get tough on
films that glamourise smoking? Or, is contemporary cinema simply an accurate
depiction of everyday life?
And what is the cultural exchange between movie scripts and society in general?
What do you think about this one-time ubiquitous movie prop - smoking - should
it be restricted on-screen or not? Should there be more indicators to parents
that smoking is in a film?
Guests
Julie Rigg
Host of Radio National's 'Movie Time'
Associate Professor John Fitzgerald
School of Population Health, University of Melbourne.
Wendy Oakes
Manager of Tobacco Control at The Cancer Council of New South Wales.
Donald McDonald
Director of the Classification Board, at Australia's Office of Film and
Literature Classification.
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The Material That Advocates Terrorist Acts review closed on May 29th. A link to the results of the public consultation can now be found here.
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Here is a breakdown of the complaints heard by the Advertising Standards Board in April. Go to their website (adstandards.com.au) to read full reports for each one. Thanks to that wonderful thing called the internet many of these advertisements can still be viewed on video share sites.
The following complaints were upheld.
| Mazda Australia Pty Ltd (Mazda 3 MPS) (Vehicles) | |
| Alex Perry (Cosmo Bride) (Clothing) | |
| MasterFoods Australia (Starburst - Big Brother Key) (Food & Beverages) | |
| Central Queensland Pumps (CQuip 2) (Hardware/machinery) | |
| DaimlerChrysler Australia/Pacific (SRT8) (Vehicles) | |
| Oporto Franchising Pty Ltd (Food & Beverages) |
All of the following complaints were dismissed.
| Invocare (White Lady Funerals) (Professional services) | |
| Central Queensland Pumps (CQuip 1)(Hardware/machinery) | |
| Calvin Klein Underwear (Clothing) | |
| McDonald's Australia Ltd (Restaurants) | |
| Gordis Night Club (Entertainment) | |
| Austereo Group Ltd (Triple M) (Media) | |
| realestate.com.au (Real Estate) | |
| Dragon City Lanes (Leisure & Sport) | |
| Main Street Night Club (Entertainment) | |
| Reckitt Benckiser Aust Pty Ltd (Veet In Shower) (Toiletries) | |
| Tricon Restaurants International (Pizza Hut) (Restaurants) | |
| Nestle Australia Ltd (Cheerios) (Food & Beverages) | |
| Castrol Lubricants (Magnatec) (Housegoods/services) | |
| Telstra Corporation Ltd (Foxtel) (Telecommunications) | |
| MBF Australia Ltd (Classic Cover - Honeycomb Rot) (Insurance) | |
| Jim Beam Brands (The Girlfriend) (Alcohol) | |
| Jim Beam Brands (The Tragedy) (Alcohol) | |
| Ford Motor Co Aust Pty Ltd (Fiesta) (Vehicles) | |
| Domayne (Voodoo Knife Block Set) (Housegoods/services) | |
| Mitsubishi Motors Australia Ltd (Triton) (Vehicles) | |
| Frucor Beverages Aust Pty Ltd (V Berry) (Food & Beverages) | |
| Scientific Fighting Congress of Australia (Leisure & Sport) | |
| National Australia Bank/AFL (Auskick) (Leisure & Sport) | |
| KIK FM Darwin (Media) |
Here are the full reports for a couple of the complaints.
ADVERTISING STANDARDS BOARD CASE REPORT
1. Complaint reference number 110/07
2. Advertiser Jim
Beam Brands (The Tragedy)
3. Product Alcohol
4. Type of advertisement Pay TV
5. Nature of complaint Discrimination or vilification Religion – section 2.1
Discrimination or vilification Sexual preference – section 2.1
6. Date of determination Tuesday, 10 April 2007
7. DETERMINATION Dismissed
DESCRIPTION OF THE ADVERTISEMENT
This television advertisement features an attractive young brunette woman in a
night club telling the camera "Actually I've never had a boyfriend. Not one, no. I've always
preferred girls. I guess I just find them more fascinating." An attractive young blonde woman joins her,
touching her leg and putting her arm around her shoulders. The first girl introduces her "This is my
girlfriend. I don't know why,
but blokes just don't do it for me. I just love girls." A male voiceover
concludes "THE TRAGEDY.
JIM BEAM. THE BOURBON".
THE COMPLAINT
A sample of comments which the complainant/s made regarding this advertisement
included the following:
Totally inappropriate material for children during a live sports program.
I find this offensive due to the fact that it goes against my Christian faith and also I don't find it acceptable that I sit down with my young children to watch a game of footy and this ad comes on.When they ask questions of this ad I then have to explain. I don't have a problem with them advertising their product but I don't see what lesbians have to do with drinking bourbon.
THE ADVERTISER’S RESPONSE
Comments which the advertiser made in response to the complaint/s regarding this
advertisement included the following:
These commercials are intended to be a humorous campaign which claims Jim Beam is the highest quality, the best and ‘The Ultimate’ bourbon, or, as the catchphrase puts it ‘The Bourbon’. Each has been pre-vetted and approved against the ABAC code and with CAD.
In each case, we liken Jim Beam to other ‘ultimate’ or incredible things, the kind of things which our audience could only imagine in their wildest dreams. This is common to most humorous advertising, we over-exaggerate and fantasize in order to illustrate our point.
In ‘The Tragedy’ TVC a beautiful girl who
is dreamily attractive to any man turns out not to be attracted to men at all, but instead prefers other women. To most men this is
the ultimate tragedy, in the same way that Jim Beam is the ultimate bourbon. This is a fantasy
occurrence for most men,
to the point of cliché, and as such we believe it is understood to be non-sensical.
Prior to filming and airing this commercial we researched it amongst both men and women (in Australia and NZ) aged between 20 and 35 to make sure our audience shares a similar view, and the outcome was positive. Interestingly, although our audience are all positive, ‘The tragedy’ was liked more by women than by men. It was seen as a well understood scenario which ‘never happens in real life’ and one which gave men their ‘just desserts’.
The complainant makes two points, first that it [lesbianism] goes against her Christian faith, and second, the offence that her children are exposed to this issue by our advertising.
Taking the first point, whether or not
sexuality forms reasonable content for advertising is a matter of judgment, particularly when it comes to the issue of religious faith
which we would not venture to comment upon. I believe Jim Beam have taken the necessary steps to
ensure that
depicting lesbianism is not offensive to the majority in itself, and not as
shown in this commercial. For this reason we assert this TVC is not interpreted as discriminating against
or vilifying lesbians, in fact the converse is true, lesbians are celebrated.
The second point does concern us. Although we are confident this commercial is acceptable to the majority we are mindful it is not our place to prompt unwelcome discussion of the subject between parents and their children. As a consequence we have ensured this particular TVC will no longer be aired during sports programming prior to 8.30 pm on the Pay TV channels. This is the standard set for network TV and alcohol advertising, which we understand is the appropriate benchmark. We would hope this demonstrates a responsible approach to the issue.
THE DETERMINATION
The Advertising Standards Board (“Board”) considered whether this
advertisement breaches Section 2 of the Advertiser Code of Ethics (the “Code”).
The Board viewed the advertisement and considered the complainant's comments that the advertisement was offensive.
The Board considered whether the depiction of the
lesbian women breached Section 2.3 of the Code dealing with sex, sexuality and nudity. The Board agreed that the depcition of
lesbian affection was no less acceptable than depicting hetero-sexual affection. The Board agreed that
the advertisement did not breach Section 2.3.
The Board then considered whether the advertisement breached Section 2.1 of the
Code dealing with
discrimination and vilification. The Board agreed that the advertisement was a
parody not to be taken
seriously and that the label at the end, "The Tragedy", was not
intended to mean that it was a tragedy generally for women to be lesbians, but that such an attractive woman was not
available to heterosexual men. The Board agreed that this did not amount to discrimination against
lesbians.
Finding that the advertisement did not breach the Code on any grounds, the Board
dismissed the complaint.
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ADVERTISING STANDARDS BOARD CASE REPORT
1. Complaint reference number 108/07
2. Advertiser MasterFoods
Australia (Starburst - Big Brother Key)
3. Product Food & Beverages
4. Type of advertisement TV
5. Nature of complaint Health and safety – section 2.6
Other - Causes alarm and distress
6. Date of determination Tuesday, 10 April 2007
7. DETERMINATION Upheld – discontinued or modified
DESCRIPTION OF THE ADVERTISEMENT
This television advertisement features a montage of the life experiences of male
conjoined twins from birth to today. As the backing track music ceases we see the grown twins lying
beside each other on hospital beds with a blue dotted line painted down the middle of the joining
skin. One twin is smiling and holding a packet of Starburst and a big golden key that has a Big Brother
keyring attached, while the other appears to be unconscious on life-support. We then see one of the
twins standing on the Big Brother stage set with the key and a carry bag in one hand and an intravenous
drip in the other.
Heavily bandaged around his mid-section, he waves to the crowd of excited Big
Brother fans. A male voiceover proclaims "Buy any specially marked pack of Starburst, win a
Golden Key and ONE lucky person could become a Big Brother Housemate".
THE COMPLAINT
A sample of comments which the complainant/s made regarding this
advertisement included the following:
I found this very degrading, immoral and VERY POOR advertising.
...the depiction of "Disabled/Conjoined Twins" in such an
inappropriate manner. Clearly the actors are not conjoined and the comical way in which they were portraying their
"disability" was extremely ofensive (sic).
I was extremely offended and disappointed that some supposed advertising geniuses have seen fit to make a commercial that makes fun of and is insulting to these types of identical twins. It is my opinion that this ad is extremely offensive and should be taken off air immediately. The lives and struggles of conjoined twins and their families is a serious matter, not a joke. The deserve respect.
Siamese twins is (sic) a tragic and serious medical condition not something to be made fun of for the purposes of advertising. For those parents who face this problem, separation of the twins is a serious life threatening operation not something to be made light of.
THE ADVERTISER’S RESPONSE
Comments which the advertiser made in response to the complaint/s regarding this
advertisement
included the following:
The advertisement emphasises that there can be
just one winner, and builds on the show’s popularity with young adults, who the STARBURST® brand particularly appeals to.
In developing this advertisement we took care to ensure that the twins portrayed were engaging
in all the enjoyable activities that the other individuals undertook in each scene, and at
no stage intended to portray them in a discriminatory way, or to cause offence to anyone.
The complainant letters submitted to the Bureau comment that conjoined twins
live with a serious condition, and that for some of them surgery is a life threatening operation.
One also, however, acknowledges that some live relatively normal lives and achieve incredible
things.
Whilst we acknowledge that we have portrayed
this small group, and their condition, in ouradvertising we do not believe that our advertisement does so in a way that is
discriminating or vilifying to that group. It is certainly not our intent, and through the
creative development process
we endeavoured to ensure this did not occur.
In summary, we acknowledge that this
advertising has prompted three complaints, and welcome the community’s feedback in relation to it. We do, however, believe that the care
we have taken to develop the advertisement has ensured it meets the provisions of the Code, and
that the complaints
submitted should be dismissed.
THE DETERMINATION
The Advertising Standards Board (“Board”) considered whether this
advertisement breaches Section
2 of the Advertiser Code of Ethics (the “Code”).
The Board viewed the advertisement several times and considered the complainants' comments that the advertisement was offensive.
The Board agreed that the advertisement, and the scene showing the conjoined twins undergoing separation surgery in particular, was insensitive, highly tasteless and very offensive, especially given the high likelihood of at least one conjoined twin dying in cases of separation surgery.
The Board considered whether the advertisement breached section 2.6 of the Code dealing with community standards of health and safety. The Board agreed that the notion of undergoing separation surgery in order to be a single winner in a prize draw was against prevailing community standards of health and safety. While the Board recognised that the advertisement contained attempted humour, the Board agreed that the humour failed in the light of the sensitive nature of conjoined twins' separations. Accordingly the Board found that the advertisement breached Section 2.6 of the Code dealing with health and safety.
The Board also considered whether the advertisement breached the AANA Food and Beverages Advertising and Marketing Communications Code (“F & B Code”). In the absence of presented evidence to the contrary, the Board found that the advertisement did not breach the F & B Code.
Finding that the advertisement did breach section 2.6 of the Code, the Board upheld the complaint.
ADVERTISER'S RESPONSE TO DETERMINATION
As a result of the Board’s finding we will move promptly to either modify
or discontinue the advertisement.
We have this week written to the advertising agency involved, Clemenger BBDO requesting that they read the draft case report and respond to us with a proposal as to how the advertisement could be modified to ensure that it complies with Section 2.6 of the Advertiser Code of Ethics.
We have requested they provide us with a formal response by c.o.b on Tuesday 24th April.
It is our intention that we make a prompt and considered assessment of their proposal, and then to advise you of any reasonable suggestions they make to modify the advertisement before the end of that week.
Update June 10th 2007
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Poor old Clavista! Another three of their hardcore DVDs have been banned by the Classification Board. These are:
| DOUBLE JEOPARDY | |
| SEX AND VIOLINS | |
| SUMMER SEX JOB IN GUADALOUPE 2 |
SUMMER SEX JOB IN GUADALOUPE 2 (PRIVATE
TROPICAL 33) Film (DVD)
Classification RC
Consumer Advice
Category Film - Sale/Hire
Version ORIGINAL
Duration variable
Date of Classification 23 May 2007
Author ALESSANDRO DEL MAR
Publisher NOT SHOWN
Production Company FRASERSIDE HOLDINGS LTD
Country of Origin EUROPE
Applicant CALVISTA AUSTRALIA PTY LTD
File Number T07/2378
Classification Number 5273440E
DOUBLE JEOPARDY Film (DVD)
Classification RC
Consumer Advice
Category Film - Sale/Hire
Version ORIGINAL
Duration variable
Date of Classification 28 May 2007
Author CHUCK LORDS
Publisher SHYLAR COBI
Production Company VIVID
Country of Origin USA
Applicant CALVISTA AUSTRALIA PTY LTD
File Number T07/2398
Classification Number 4272053D
SEX AND VIOLINS Film (DVD)
Classification RC
Consumer Advice
Category Film - Sale/Hire
Version ORIGINAL
Duration variable
Date of Classification 31 May 2007
Author PAUL THOMAS
Publisher SHYLAR COBI
Production Company VIVID
Country of Origin USA
Applicant CALVISTA AUSTRALIA PTY LTD
File Number T07/2478
Classification Number 7672172E
These join the three that were banned the previous week. So far only one of those, DEBBIE DOES DALLAS AGAIN, has been censored for an X18+ (Explicit Sex) rating.
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ACMA have found SBS guilty of incorrectly classifying the DEATH VIA THE INTERNET episode of INSPECTOR REX PG.
Australian Government
Australian Communications and Media Authority
29 May 2007
ACMA finds SBS incorrectly classified episode of Inspector Rex
The Australian Communications and Media Authority has found that the Special Broadcasting Service Corporation (SBS) breached Code 4 of the SBS Codes of Practice 2006 by broadcasting an incorrectly classified episode of the program Inspector Rex on 16 November 2006.
In response to a complaint received on 31 December 2006, ACMA found that material in certain scenes was not sufficiently mild and discreet to be classified PG.
The guidelines for PG-classified programs require that sexual activity be mild in impact, discreetly implied, and justified by context.
SBS acknowledged it had incorrectly classified the program and advised ACMA that it had apologised to the complainant for the breach. The broadcaster further advised that it did not intend to broadcast the episode in question again, and that it had discussed the reasons behind the finding of the breach with staff directly involved in the program’s classification.
ACMA also found that SBS had complied with Code 8 in dealing with the complaint in the first instance.
ACMA does not propose to take any further action in relation to the matter at this time.
ACMA’s investigation report can be viewed on ACMA’s website.
Media contact: Donald Robertson, ACMA Media Manager, on (02) 9334 7980.
Backgrounder
Complaints about national broadcasters
Under section 150 of the Broadcasting Services Act 1992, if a person complains
to the ABC or SBS about a matter that is covered by a code of practice and does
not receive a satisfactory response within 60 days, the person can refer the
complaint to ACMA.
Further information about ACMA’s complaint-handling role is available on its website.
SBS Code of Practice 2006
The SBS Code of Practice 2006 can be viewed on the SBS website at
www20.sbs.com.au/sbscorporate/index.php?id=1065.
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The new Director of the OFLC, Donald McDonald, made his debut at the recent Senate Estimates. Topics covered included just how he managed to land the job, Muslim terror books and DVD's, and the banning of THE PEACEFUL PILL HANDBOOK.
The speakers are:
ALP
WA Senator Chris Evans
QLD Senator Joe Ludwig
Liberal Party
WA Senator David Johnston
NSW Senator Marise Payne
Office of Film and Literature Classification
Mr Donald McDonald, Director
Ms Kelly Williams, Assistant Secretary
Mr Jeremy Fenton, Senior Classifier
Attorney-General’s Department Management and Accountability
Mr Ian Govey, Deputy Secretary, Civil Justice and Legal Services
Support services for government operations Output group 4
Mr Alex Anderson, Assistant Secretary, Legal Policy
Output 1.2 Ms Amanda Davies, Assistant Secretary, Classification Policy Branch
STANDING COMMITTEE ON LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL
AFFAIRS: Office of Film and Literature Classification: Discussion
Date 24 May, 2007
Committee name STANDING COMMITTEE ON LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL AFFAIRS
Page 86
Proof Yes
Database Estimates Comm.
Source Senate
Talk
CHAIR—We welcome Mr McDonald and his colleagues from the Office of Film and
Literature Classification. Are there any questions?
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—I wish to ask about the appointment process and how it was
conducted. I presume I ask that of Mr Cornall rather than Mr McDonald. We had a
discussion earlier about the human rights commission. Was this job advertised?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, it was.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—When was it advertised?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Some time in the latter part of 2006.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Did the department handle the selection process?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, we did.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—What was the selection process?
Talk
Mr Cornall—We called for applications. We considered the applications. We
established a short-list and we conducted interviews.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Was Mr McDonald an applicant?
Talk
Mr Cornall—No. I will just go on. We did all of that in 2006. We felt, out of
that process, that there were two candidates who were worthy of consideration,
but we were not sure that they met all of the criteria that we were looking for
in the position. In early 2007 we engaged an executive recruitment firm to see
if they could supplement the list of candidates, which they did. We conducted
another round of interviews and, as a result of that, one of the people who was
in that second round of interviews stood out to us as the candidate that we felt
met the criteria most closely. We then put those details before the Attorney. We
told him of the process that we had been through, the people we had interviewed,
the candidates we thought were worthy of consideration and the reasons why we
thought that. We gave him a report of the process and the matter was left to him
at that point. I should stress that, as we discussed before, statutory
appointments are matters for government to make. They can ask for a process to
be conducted or they can simply make appointments without any reference to the
department. They can ask for a process to be undertaken and then not accept the
recommendations about potential candidates.
As I understand it, after that point the Attorney had a discussion with Mr McDonald in which it became clear that Mr McDonald would consider appointment if it was offered to him. The Attorney thought that was an outstanding appointment to be made, and the matter went forward from there.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Thank you for that. You answered a bit quickly for me so I
will take you back a bit more slowly through that. PM&C told me the other
day it was a cabinet appointment.
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—As you say, it is within the power of cabinet to make
whatever decision it wants to make. I might add that I am not casting any
aspersions against Mr McDonald or his qualifications for the job. I am not
particularly familiar with what the qualifications for the job are. So you
short-listed in 2006. Did you make the decision that the two candidates that you
came down to were not up to it, or was that a decision the minister made after
seeing what you had put up to him?
Talk
Mr Cornall—It was a decision that was reflected on by the committee after we
had looked at the report that we were preparing at that time.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Were you on the committee?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, I chaired the committee.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Who else was on it?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Amanda Davies, one of my fellow officers; Laurie Glenfield, the
Secretary of the Attorney-General’s Department in New South Wales; and Josh
Faulks, who is an adviser to the Attorney-General.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Is he a political adviser?
Talk
Mr Cornall—He is an adviser to the Attorney-General.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—He is not someone on secondment from the department?
Talk
Mr Cornall—No.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—That committee was constituted. You came to two names, but
in the end you concluded that you were not going to put either of them forward
to the minister?
Talk
Mr Cornall—We did not put a formal submission to the Attorney before we
decided we might have another look.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Did you discuss that with the Attorney before you decided
to have another look?
Talk
Mr Cornall—No, I did not.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Was that a process done within the selection committee
itself?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, more or less within the selection committee itself. I did not
discuss it with the Attorney and I did not put a submission to the Attorney at
that point.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Who did you get to do the executive recruitment search?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Hansen and Searson.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Had you used them before?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes. They are very well known recruitment agents in Canberra.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—And they went out and did a recruitment service. How did
you handle what came back?
Talk
Mr Cornall—They received eight expressions of interest and, after we discussed
them, we agreed to short-list five candidates from that process.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Were any of them candidates from your earlier process?
Talk
Mr Cornall—No.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—When you say ‘expressions of interest’, these are
people they had identified who have said that they were willing to have their
name go forward?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, that is right.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—You short-listed five; did the same selection committee
interview them?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, the same selection committee.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Did you interview them, get referees and that sort of
process?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, we did.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Did you come down to one recommended candidate?
Talk
Mr Cornall—In the end we felt one candidate stood out, but we told the
Attorney of the three candidates from both processes that we felt were worthy of
consideration.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—So there was still somebody from the original list?
Talk
Mr Cornall—We made a report to the Attorney that covered the whole process.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Was there one preferred candidate and the two from the
original process?
Talk
Mr Cornall—The candidates in the final process that we felt most closely met
all of the criteria, but the two earlier candidates we thought had come pretty
close.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Is it fair to say that the candidates from the second
process were the preferred nomination?
Talk
Mr Cornall—That was our recommendation. All we can do in these circumstances
is make a recommendation to the Attorney that ‘we feel this person meets the
criteria that you are looking for’.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—I am just trying to ascertain whether the three went
forward with equal weight.
Talk
Mr Cornall—No, one stood out.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—One went forward as the recommendation and you also
forwarded the other two names as being qualified but not recommended?
Talk
Mr Cornall—No, we said that they were certainly worthy of consideration for
appointment if he did not want to appoint the person whom we felt most closely
met all of the criteria.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—What happened after that?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Then the matter was in the hands of the Attorney.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—When were you advised that he was not going to select the
recommended candidate?
Talk
Mr Cornall—I am not sure that I know the exact date. It was not long before
the meeting of the Standing Committee of Attorneys-General. If you want the
exact date I will have to find it for you. I do not know that I have it.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Were you told first that the applicant that you had
recommended would not be appointed and did you subsequently hear that cabinet
had made a decision to appoint Mr McDonald or was it one process?
Talk
Mr Cornall—I had a telephone call that said that the Attorney was considering
making Mr McDonald as an appointment, because with the process that we had to go
through—and I just cannot remember the timing of all of this and who did what—we
have to do papers for the matter to go to the cabinet. Once it has gone to
cabinet, because this was a process that involved a position that had to be
consulted with the states, we had to also do letters for the Attorney to send to
his state colleagues on the censorship ministers committee before the
appointment could be formally made. We had to do all of those things as well, so
we were involved in those processes.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Just so that I am clear, that means you must have been
asked to provide paperwork for the cabinet that nominated Mr McDonald and not
the other applicant?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, that is right.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—The minister had advised you that he was not taking
forward the applicant you had recommended or either of the other two but he was
taking forward Mr McDonald’s name?
Talk
Mr Cornall—That is right.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—And the recommendation was just for one candidate?
Talk
Mr Cornall—That is right.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—So you prepared the paperwork for the Attorney-General to
take to cabinet?
Talk
Mr Cornall—Yes, we did.
Talk
Senator CHRIS EVANS—Do you have the date of the cabinet meeting? Was it some
time in April?
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Mr Cornall—It was between 23 March and 11 April, but I am not sure of the
date. I do not have it here in front of me.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—Does anyone have the date?
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Mr Cornall—Mr Anderson said that it was on 11 April.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—I have a media report here which was the 14th so I figured
it was soon after that. Can you explain to me the process by which you have to
consult with the states on this appointment?
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Mr Cornall—Yes. There was a letter drafted for all of the states. It was faxed
to the offices of the various ministers, and that was two days before the SCAG
meeting, or the censorship ministers meeting. Then there was discussion about it
at the meeting of the ministers.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—Is this all subsequent to the cabinet decision?
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Mr Cornall—Yes, it is.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—SCAG is an unfortunate sounding acronym.
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Mr Cornall—It is actually the censorship ministers. They are virtually all the
same and they meet at the same time.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—So this was not the SCAG?
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Mr Cornall—It was a meeting of the censorship ministers.
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CHAIR—Ministers for censorship.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—I am just trying to understand what the powers are. The
cabinet had already made the decision and this was more of a courtesy than a—
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Mr Cornall—No. It is difficult where you have to consult on appointments,
which are normally kept very confidential, to go to eight jurisdictions and put
the name of a person into that environment if in fact you have not got a clear
indication from the cabinet that that person is acceptable to the Australian
government. It is a question of which you do first, and the policy is to take
any nominee to cabinet first to make sure that at least you have cabinet
endorsement before you then go to the states, because then it will become a very
public nomination. Under the legislation the Attorney-General has the power to
make the appointment, but there is an obligation to consult.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—It is a consult and not a vote?
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Mr Cornall—That is right.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—The Attorney-General says: ‘This is our nominee. We can
have a chat about it,’ but at the end of the day unless he is convinced
otherwise, he makes the nomination?
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Mr Cornall—That is right.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—It is not one of those deals where they get the deputy
censor or something like that?
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Mr Cornall—No.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—A couple of them are those sorts of things.
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Mr Cornall—No.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—So it is an appointment by the Attorney-General?
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Mr Cornall—It is an appointment by the Australian government.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—I know it is a cabinet decision but formally it is the
A-G; is that right?
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Mr Cornall—It goes to the governor-in-council and it is a formal appointment
by the governor-in-council after it has been recommended to the cabinet by the
Attorney and the cabinet has endorsed it.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—I think we are clear on that. PM&C told me the Prime
Minister left the room for the decision. Was he the only person to absent
himself from the cabinet meeting?
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Mr Cornall—I do not know.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—But Mr Ruddock did not absent himself?
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Mr Cornall—I do not know.
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CHAIR—It is hard for Mr Cornall to respond on what happened in cabinet
proceedings.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—I just wanted him to tell me who came out the door.
PM&C gave evidence which confirmed the press reports that Mr Howard, the
Prime Minister, absented himself from the room for the discussion. That was
their evidence earlier in the week. When was Mr McDonald appointed?
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Mr Anderson—He was appointed on 26 April effective from 1 May.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—How long is the appointment for?
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Mr Anderson—Four years.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—Is this a full-time position?
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Mr Anderson—That is correct.
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Senator CHRIS EVANS—Thank you.
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Senator LUDWIG—In response to Senator Stott Despoja’s question on notice No.
2903 of 7 February 2007, the minister indicated the reason for the amalgamation
of the OFLC into the department was:
It is Government policy in the context of the Uhrig report to review all Australian Government agencies and identify ... functions that should be brought back within a Department.
In respect of the OFLC, what was the review that identified that the OFLC’s policymaking function should be brought back within the department?
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Mr Cornall—It was a ministerial decision.
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Senator LUDWIG—There was no review?
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Mr Cornall—Yes, but not a review like the Uhrig review.
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Senator LUDWIG—There were no terms of reference?
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Mr Cornall—No, not a formal external review.
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Senator LUDWIG—And no-one conducted a review? There was no public
consultation?
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Mr Cornall—No.
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Senator LUDWIG—Were stakeholders, industry representatives or community groups
consulted?
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Mr Cornall—No.
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Senator LUDWIG—There was no ultimate report, either?
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Mr Cornall—No.
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Senator LUDWIG—So how do we understand the process of public interest or
policy advice? Was that all simply by the minister making a decision to role the
OFLC into the Attorney-General’s Department?
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Mr Cornall—Yes, I think that is right.
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Senator LUDWIG—How was that communicated to the department? Was that decision
communicated to you?
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Mr Cornall—There was a submission to the Attorney recommending that course of
action that the Attorney endorsed.
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Mr Anderson—There had been some interaction with the department of finance as
well in the context of the Uhrig process that also fell into that advice to the
Attorney.
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Senator LUDWIG—Are you able to say what that submission entailed and when it
was made?
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Mr Anderson—I would have to take the date on notice.
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Senator LUDWIG—Was it close to the decision making or was it some time ago? Do
you have a rough date?
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Mr Anderson—I will have to take that on notice.
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Senator LUDWIG—In the last 10 years? I am not asking for a specific date. I
accept that you will take it on notice.
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Mr Anderson—I can say it was early in 2006.
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Senator LUDWIG—Who started the discussion with the department of finance? Was
that the Attorney-General’s Department or the department of finance?
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Mr Anderson—We were already in discussion with the department of finance in
the context of the ongoing Uhrig process.
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Senator LUDWIG—How did the OFLC get put on that list?
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Mr Anderson—We were already having discussions with the department of finance
about OFLC in the context of applying the Uhrig review to the OFLC.
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Senator LUDWIG—When did that discussion commence? Was that from the
Attorney-General’s Department?
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Mr Anderson—I would have to take that on notice.
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Senator LUDWIG—Was that before the Uhrig review?
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Mr Anderson—I would have to take that on notice in respect to OFLC. It is an
ongoing process of discussion in relation to a range of bodies.
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Senator LUDWIG—Are you able to say what other bodies were also discussed?
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Mr Anderson—My understanding is that we were required to apply the Uhrig
formula or methodology to all portfolio bodies.
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Senator LUDWIG—Was a submission then produced as a consequence of that report?
What I am trying to understand is, given that we all know that there was a Uhrig
report, what happened after that? You read it presumably?
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Mr Anderson—Yes.
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Senator LUDWIG—You then decided to independently say, ‘We will review all of
the agencies’?
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Mr Anderson—We were required to do that.
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Senator LUDWIG—Was that a direction from the department of finance that caused
that to occur? The report would not generally generate—
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Mr Cornall—It was a decision of government that all departments had to do it
in respect of all agencies.
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Senator LUDWIG—As a consequence of the report, not because of the report?
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Mr Cornall—Following on from the report, which made the recommendation that
the government should where possible reduce the number of agencies.
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Senator LUDWIG—I can accept that language. The government does not always
implement all the recommendations of reports. It has to at some point say, ‘We
will pick this one up and run with it.’
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Mr Cornall—That is true, and we were directed to do that.
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Senator LUDWIG—You can then find me that date. In being directed to do that,
was there a document produced—in other words, a submission? Is it back to
government? I am just trying to understand the process.
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Mr Cornall—The difficulty is that I just do not have the detail at my
fingertips, but the gist of it was that we looked at all of the agencies. Many
of them by definition could not be a division of a department.
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Senator LUDWIG—Yes. We could use the Australian Federal Police as an example.
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Mr Cornall—You could not have the police, the courts, the tribunals, the
Privacy Commissioner, HREOC and so on. Really when we went through it there were
very few portfolio agencies that actually fell within the principles such that
you could bring them into the department. OFLC was one of the few that could be
looked at in that regard.
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Senator LUDWIG—What others?
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Mr Cornall—We looked at the AIC. There was a review of the Institute of
Criminology at some point. The Institute of Criminology was looked at in this
context.
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Senator LUDWIG—Any of the tribunals?
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Mr Cornall—No.
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Senator LUDWIG—Certainly not the Office of the Director of Public
Prosecutions?
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Mr Cornall—No.
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Senator LUDWIG—The Australian Law Reform Commission?
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Mr Cornall—That was looked at, but it was determined not to go ahead. I am
sure we looked at all of them against the principles and we came to conclusions
about all of them as to which ones could or could not be moved or whether there
was any rationale for doing so under the principles.
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Senator LUDWIG—What I was trying to establish is which ones ended up in the
basket to be looked at in more detail or examined?
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Mr Cornall—They were all examined. Basically, the OFLC was the most
significant outcome of that.
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CHAIR—I call the committee to order. Did you want to make a statement, Mr
Cornall?
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Mr Cornall—Yesterday I gave a schedule of advertising expenditures. I have a
couple of very minor corrections to the figures. One figure has come down from
$0.6 million to $0.3 million, and one has come down from $5.3 million to $5.2
million, so they are a bit less than the figures I gave you. I will table this
slightly corrected version for the sake of accuracy. The net result is that the
advertising expenditure is less than was shown yesterday by a small amount.
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CHAIR—Thank you. We will continue with the questions. Senator Ludwig, I have
some questions too if you need some relief at any stage.
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Senator LUDWIG—I will tie this up as quickly as I can. I have questions with
respect to the incorporation of OFLC in the department. We have heard how there
was a decision by the Attorney-General to bring it forward and we have seen how
we arrived at the OFLC-in-the-basket post the report. Did the department provide
a submission to the Attorney-General’s Department based on the government
direction and was there then the development, in light of the report, of a final
snapshot to the Attorney-General that said, ‘This is what our recommendation
is’? There seems to be a bit of difference on this point.
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Mr Cornall—I do not have these details fixed in my mind, that is all.
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Mr Anderson—Effectively, that is correct.
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Senator LUDWIG—In dealing with that was any consideration given to the issue
of assessing the value of having a stream of policy advice on censorship which
is not only independent of government but also perceived to be independent of
government?
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Mr Anderson—The model that has been adapted is the model that is applied in
all Australian jurisdictions where policy is given from the department of the
state.
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Senator LUDWIG—In terms of the Attorney-General making the decision, how long
was it until the announcement was made for the OFLC to be rolled into the
department?
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Mr Anderson—I would have to take that question on notice.
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Senator LUDWIG—What date was the OFLC rolled into the department?
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Mr Anderson—It has not happened yet. The policy function, human resources and
some other ancillary functions were incorporated into the department from 1 July
2006. The full integration is scheduled to occur on 1 July 2007. The OFLC still
exists.
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Senator LUDWIG—I thought that. I knew that since the last time we spoke you
had rolled in the corporate functions. The remaining functions will be rolled in
on 1 July 2007?
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Mr Anderson—That is right.
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Senator LUDWIG—What will that entail? Will it entail the commercial premises
being sublet?
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Mr Anderson—No. The people will stay in the same place. They have some
purpose-built facilities for viewing different types of product. The
classification board members who are full time will continue doing that work. It
is just that the people who currently support them as part of OFLC will instead
be officers of the department, but they will still be providing support to that
board and also to the Classification Review Board from the same premises and
with the same arrangements for industry in terms of delivery of product, et
cetera.
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Senator LUDWIG—On what date did the minister take responsibility for policy
development?
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Mr Anderson—On 1 July 2006. That was sole responsibility for the policy. Prior
to that it had been shared policy responsibility.
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Mr Govey—Senator, just so that we are clear, you asked, ‘On what date did
the minister take responsibility’? The minister, of course, always had
responsibility. There was a joint responsibility prior to that.
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Senator LUDWIG—Yes, we understood one another in that sense. I should have
said ‘sole responsibility’.
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Mr Govey—He always had sole responsibility. I guess that was my point.
Previously what happened was that the responsibility for giving him advice was
shared between the department and the OFLC. Nothing changed in terms of
ministerial responsibility. All that changed from 1 July 2006 was that the
department became responsible for giving the advice.
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Senator LUDWIG—Was the opportunity given to the OFLC to provide a submission—do
we want to call it an internal submission or a review; I am open on that—on
their view about whether they should be rolled into the department?
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Mr Anderson—No.
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Senator LUDWIG—How was that communicated to them?
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Mr Anderson—My understanding is that the Attorney rang the director.
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Senator LUDWIG—How many full-time equivalent positions were attached to the
policy development unit? That might come back you, Mr McDonald, unless Mr
Anderson can help. I do not mind who in that sense. I am trying to understand
which of those has been brought forward.
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Mr Anderson—Five positions were attached to the policy function.
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Senator LUDWIG—That was prior to the amalgamation. Are they still there, or
will they change from 1 July?
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Mr Anderson—Those positions all transferred to Canberra from 1 July 2006.
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Senator LUDWIG—There are two stages to the amalgamation. Prior to 1 July 2006
there were five and post 1 July 2006 there were still five. Is that right?
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Mr Anderson—Those five positions transferred to Canberra.
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Senator LUDWIG—Post 1 July 2007 will it still be five?
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Mr Anderson—We have increased the number of positions. The branch that has the
policy function has more than five positions, but it has other functions beyond
classification policy. So there are still five positions doing classification
policy work.
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Senator LUDWIG—Is there a new policy unit with a new name?
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Mr Anderson—There is a branch called the Classification Policy Branch, which
is in Canberra.
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Senator LUDWIG—So those five positions then get rolled into that?
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Mr Anderson—Yes, that is correct.
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Senator LUDWIG—What other responsibilities does it have?
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Mr Anderson—It has responsibility for supporting the Attorney’s
participation in SCAG.
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Senator LUDWIG—How many positions in total?
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Mr Anderson—There are eight people currently in that branch.
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Senator LUDWIG—That is in total. How many were there before 1 July 2006?
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Mr Anderson—The branch itself was set up when it was identified that the
policy function would transfer.
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Senator LUDWIG—On what date was the branch set up?
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Mr Anderson—I would have to take that on notice.
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Mr Govey—It would have been around that date.
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Senator LUDWIG—There were then three people. Where did the other three people
come from?
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Mr Anderson—There is a branch head, a personal assistant who supports the
branch head in the branch, and the SCAG officer. The policy function was
previously dealt with from within the Office of Legal Services Coordination,
which was another part of the division. We moved it out of that and created a
separate branch called the Classification Policy Branch.
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Senator LUDWIG—Excellent. So three people in the Office of Legal Services
Cooordination who were doing the work of supporting SCAG?
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Mr Anderson—The branch head actually came from a separate area.
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Senator LUDWIG—Could we just look at the positions? I worry about the people
but we are talking about positions. I think that might be easier.
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Mr Anderson—The branch head position was a new position created because there
was a new branch with a new function. Similarly, the personal assistant position
was a new position to support that new branch head position. There was one
person, a SCAG officer, in the Office of Legal Services Coordination.
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Senator LUDWIG—So we now have eight in total?
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Mr Anderson—Yes.
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Senator LUDWIG—We have had an increase from five to eight, less one, which was
an existing position. We have two new positions created?
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Mr Govey—There was already some work being done on policy within the Office of
Legal Services Coordination. I think it is worth making the general point that
it is very hard to add up all the little bits that were working on this and then
come up with where we are now. Effectively, we sat down again and looked at what
structure we were going to need, taking into account the available resources.
The branch has been set up in light of current needs, which are not necessarily
the same as when you had policy being done from an office in Sydney and an
office in Canberra.
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Senator LUDWIG—Yes, Mr Govey. Sometimes it is very hard from this side of the
table. If you are telling me that it is hard from your side, I will certainly
accept that. Mr McDonald, I know that you are new but this was a process of
policy development which might be called, if I use the general term, the hate
books—that is, books promoting suicide bombing and atrocities against the
West. As I understand the situation, we have a fourfold system dealing with this
type of material. I am happy to be assisted here. First, there are criminal
offences under section 102.1A of the Criminal Code, which proscribes
counselling, praising of or instruction in a terrorist act. Second, there are
sedition offences under section 80.2 of the Criminal Code. Third, there is the
censorship regime. You have a role—this is already within the capacity of the
Classification Review Board to take into account—to refuse classification on
the basis of depictions that condone or incite violence. The fourth area
involves Customs, if there is an importation. There are regulations that then
deal with the importation of refused classification material or the like. Have I
missed any? They are the four main ways in which we generally deal with this
type of material.
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Ms Davies—Yes, those are the four main ones, although I note that the sedition
offences et cetera that you are talking about are not directed at the material
itself.
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Senator LUDWIG—That is right. Under the categories and symbols page on your
website there is the classification ‘PG’ for films and computer games that
contain material that need to be explained to children and, therefore, parental
guidance is recommended. The PG content is mild. I refer to the specific example
of the Sheik Feiz terror DVD, which was given a PG rating. As I understood it,
that matter was raised in the Sydney Morning Herald on 15 April 2005. The
question that I have is: how is a film that calls for Muslims to murder
non-Islamic people considered mild by the board?
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Mr McDonald—The board considered that material on a referral that was
submitted by the Australian Federal Police. It was a clear majority decision to
classify the material on that basis.
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Senator LUDWIG—I do not understand one issue. Perhaps you can help me with
this. How can a film that calls for suicide attacks or so-called martyrdom be
considered mild by the board? How on earth can the board come to the conclusion
that a DVD that displays racial hatred by calling Jewish people an army of pigs
is mild? I would like to know specifically why the board—which, as I
understand the brief, is to be reflective of Australian community standards—considered
this material appropriate for young Australian Muslim children aged, say, 10
years, to view.
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Mr McDonald—I am just referring to the actual report. As you clearly
understand, this decision was reached before I was appointed to the board, which
is not meant to be misunderstood as any repudiation of the decision; it is just
that I was not there and familiar with it. It was the board’s view that the
classifiable element of the themes—which are the religious themes—was mild
in its viewing impact. I am now reading from the report, which states:
The film contains religious themes that have a low sense of threat and/or menace and that are justified by context. The context is a lecture about tenets of the Islamic faith, ostensibly from a fundamentalist perspective.
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Senator LUDWIG—Was the content of the DVD produced in Australia or overseas?
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Mr McDonald—Yes, it was produced in Australia. It is astonishingly undramatic,
Senator. A camera is simply trained on somebody who is standing there, speaking.
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Senator LUDWIG—Are you able to provide to the committee the statement of
reasons by the board?
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Mr McDonald—I believe I have provided them in full. The report refers to
various points—at minute 14 et cetera—
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Senator LUDWIG—I understand the report.
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Mr McDonald—The concluding remark is:
In the Board’s view, the use of the consumer advice “Religious themes” most accurately reflects the content of the classifiable element in the film.
In a minority view of the board, it was stated:
The classifiable elements contained in the film do not exceed “very mild” in impact. The themes are delivered in the manner of a modern-day sermon, and contain references and imagery generally tolerated within the wider Australian religious community.
That was the minority view, but I believe it was a minority of three.
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Senator LUDWIG—It just does not seem sensible to me. How can it be justifiable
when it has material or content that allows someone to murder non-believers? If
you could provide that report, it would be helpful. I understand, and I am sure
Mr Cornall can confirm this, that in the past those reports have been provided
to the committee upon request.
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Mr McDonald—Yes. We have the report, Senator. I would be happy to have it
provided.
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Senator LUDWIG—Could it be tabled?
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CHAIR—Is it the wish of the committee that the report be tabled? There being
no objection, it is so ordered.
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Senator LUDWIG—Are you able to say when the decision was made? Is that
demonstrated in the report?
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Mr McDonald—Sorry, your question was the date—
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Senator LUDWIG—The date the decision was made. I am not sure how it works. Do
you review the material?
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Mr McDonald—On 9 February 2007.
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Senator LUDWIG—When was it referred to the OFLC by the Australian Federal
Police?
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Mr McDonald—I am hazarding a guess that it would have been 20 days prior to
that. I will ask Mr Fenton to provide that information. He is a member of the
board and a senior classifier.
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Mr Fenton—We would have to take that on notice. We are not sure exactly when
the material would have been received, but the director is correct in saying
that it would not have been more than 20 days before the decision was made, I
believe.
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Senator LUDWIG—Is there a legislative requirement for the decision to be made
within 20 days of receiving it?
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Mr Fenton—A statutory requirement, yes.
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Senator LUDWIG—I have not yet seen the decision, but does that provide the
names of members who made the decision? We have heard that it was a majority
decision but there was also a dissenter. Does it provide the names of the people
who were in the majority and the name of the dissenter?
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Mr McDonald—It provides their initials. The names could be provided to you. As
you would appreciate from th